Claims

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John Strand ASSOCIATED_WITH Awareness Con

John Strand organized Awareness Con in Adel to explain physical penetration testing and the security profession to the local community.

Explicit Confidence 99% · John Strand EP 179 Details

“we immediately went to the town of Adel, Iowa, and we did Awareness Con.”

John Strand · offsets 72708–72780

Iowa courthouse penetration-testing arrest ASSOCIATED_WITH qualified immunity

The later civil lawsuit arising from the incident was limited by qualified-immunity protections; the episode explains this as a barrier to suing government officials.

Explicit Confidence 96% · Jack Rhysider EP 179 Details

“qualified immunity means you can’t sue government workers, especially judges, prosecutors, and cops”

Jack Rhysider · offsets 82658–82757

Iowa courthouse penetration-testing arrest COMPROMISES Dallas County Courthouse

Justin and Gary gained physical access to the Dallas County Courthouse during the assessment; the episode presents this as authorized testing, although the authorization was later disputed.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Gary DeMercurio EP 179 Details

“we walked up to the north door”

Gary DeMercurio · offsets 28807–28837

“we’re here testing the security”

Justin Wynn · offsets 34463–34494

Kaiju Security DEVELOPED_BY Gabby

Gabby says she and Justin built Kaiju Security after deciding to start a new company with different practices.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Gabby EP 179 Details

“We had a vision of — we wanted to do things a little bit differently, and so, we did that with Kaiju.”

Gabby · offsets 94346–94447

Kaiju Security DEVELOPED_BY Justin Wynn

Justin moved onto the team that he and Gabby established when Kaiju Security was created.

Explicit Confidence 98% · Jack Rhysider EP 179 Details

“Justin moved on to the team shortly after it was formed.”

Jack Rhysider · offsets 94666–94722

Iowa courthouse penetration-testing arrest INVOLVES Justin Wynn

Justin Wynn was arrested during the courthouse incident after law enforcement treated the physical test as trespassing or burglary.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Jack Rhysider EP 179 Details

“So, both of them get handcuffed.”

Jack Rhysider · offsets 42683–42715

Iowa courthouse penetration-testing arrest INVOLVES badge cloning

During the Dallas courthouse attempt, Gary tried a badge cloned from another building to test whether it provided multi-building access.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Gary DeMercurio EP 179 Details

“I tried a badge we had cloned from another building”

Gary DeMercurio · offsets 29978–30029

Iowa courthouse penetration-testing arrest INVOLVES Iowa Judicial Branch

The incident involved the Iowa Judicial Branch, which commissioned the courthouse penetration test.

Explicit Confidence 98% · Jack Rhysider EP 179 Details

“The Iowa Judicial Branch has actually worked with Coalfire before to do other penetration tests.”

Jack Rhysider · offsets 13379–13475

Iowa courthouse penetration-testing arrest INVOLVES under-the-door tool

The episode says the testers used or carried an under-the-door tool as one method for bypassing doors during physical assessments.

Explicit Confidence 95% · Jack Rhysider EP 179 Details

“these guys mentioned that they sometimes use an under-the-door tool”

Jack Rhysider · offsets 14563–14630

Iowa courthouse penetration-testing arrest INVOLVES Gary DeMercurio

Gary DeMercurio was arrested during the courthouse incident after law enforcement treated the physical test as trespassing or burglary.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Jack Rhysider EP 179 Details

“So, both of them get handcuffed.”

Jack Rhysider · offsets 42683–42715

Iowa courthouse penetration-testing arrest INVOLVES security cameras

The testers located the courthouse security-camera monitoring position and observed camera coverage and blind spots.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Jack Rhysider EP 179 Details

“they took careful notes on what blind spots there were with the security cameras”

Jack Rhysider · offsets 24037–24117

Iowa courthouse penetration-testing arrest INVOLVES Dallas County Courthouse

The incident specifically involved the historic Dallas County Courthouse in Adel, Iowa.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Jack Rhysider EP 179 Details

“This one was actually the Dallas County Courthouse in Adel, Iowa.”

Jack Rhysider · offsets 25926–25991

Iowa courthouse penetration-testing arrest INVOLVES Coalfire Systems

The Iowa courthouse incident involved Coalfire personnel conducting the contracted security assessment.

Explicit Confidence 96% · Jack Rhysider EP 179 Details

“the company that Justin and Gary work for”

Jack Rhysider · offsets 8287–8328

Iowa courthouse penetration-testing arrest INVOLVES physical penetration testing

The incident involved a physical penetration test of Iowa courthouse facilities.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Jack Rhysider EP 179 Details

“they’re specifically asking for a physical penetration test at five locations”

Jack Rhysider · offsets 9916–9993

Iowa courthouse penetration-testing arrest INVOLVES lock picking

The courthouse assessment involved lock-picking, including picking doors leading to a courtroom.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Gary DeMercurio EP 179 Details

“I ended up picking two doors in a row to a courtroom”

Gary DeMercurio · offsets 22482–22534

Justin Wynn MEMBER_OF Coalfire Systems

Justin Wynn says he is a senior security consultant and works for Coalfire Systems.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Justin Wynn EP 179 Details

“I’m a senior security consultant with Coalfire Systems.”

Justin Wynn · offsets 7219–7274

Gary DeMercurio MEMBER_OF Coalfire Systems

Gary DeMercurio says he works at Coalfire Systems and runs its Bellevue office.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Gary DeMercurio EP 179 Details

“I’ve been at Coalfire for six years”

Gary DeMercurio · offsets 7710–7745

Iowa courthouse penetration-testing arrest RELATED_TO Awareness Con

Awareness Con was held in response to the courthouse arrests and the resulting public controversy.

Explicit Confidence 98% · Jack Rhysider EP 179 Details

“a few people from the cybersecurity community got together and said, what can we do to support these two? John Strand came up with a plan.”

Jack Rhysider · offsets 72232–72370

Justin Wynn USES physical penetration testing

Justin describes his work as offensive penetration testing specializing in physical security and physical exploits.

Explicit Confidence 98% · Justin Wynn EP 179 Details

“I am an offensive penetration tester who specializes in physical security”

Justin Wynn · offsets 7275–7348

Gary DeMercurio USES lock picking

Gary describes lock-picking as a capability he routinely uses during physical assessments.

Explicit Confidence 97% · Jack Rhysider EP 179 Details

“Gary is also really good at lock-picking.”

Jack Rhysider · offsets 15266–15307

Iowa Judicial Branch USES Coalfire Systems

The Iowa Judicial Branch contacted Coalfire to conduct penetration testing on its courthouses.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Jack Rhysider EP 179 Details

“it was the Iowa Judicial Branch that called up Coalfire and asked the company to come and do a penetration test on the courthouses themselves.”

Jack Rhysider · offsets 8776–8918

Justin Wynn USES under-the-door tool

Justin says Gary first handed him an under-the-door tool and taught him how to use it; Justin therefore describes using the tool as part of their work.

Explicit Confidence 96% · Justin Wynn EP 179 Details

“Gary was the first guy who handed me the under-the-door tool and taught me how to use this”

Justin Wynn · offsets 20406–20496

Gary DeMercurio USES physical penetration testing

Gary says he has approximately nine years of experience conducting physical penetration testing.

Explicit Confidence 98% · Gary DeMercurio EP 179 Details

“I’ve got about nine years of experience of physical pen testing.”

Gary DeMercurio · offsets 7804–7868