Episode

EP 121 — Ed

26 July 2022 Official episode · Official transcript

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Jack Rhysider interviews Ed Skoudis about penetration testing, medical-device security, connected toys, replay vulnerabilities, and the real-world safety implications of cybersecurity work. Beau Woods discusses I Am The Cavalry and collaborative medical-device security research.

Topics: Phishing and spoofed-email social engineering, Authorized penetration testing and rules of engagement, Attack-surface enumeration with Nmap, HTTP/HTTPS web attack surfaces, Cross-site scripting and SQL injection testing, Internal-network assessment through VPN access, Low-and-slow scanning and detection evasion, Medical-device patch management and asset inventory, Safety implications of compromising surgical systems, Medical-device security research and coordinated collaboration, Connected-toy security across device, wireless protocol, mobile app, cloud service, API, and web interface, Replay vulnerabilities and replay attacks, Risk communication in penetration-test reports

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Entities (43)

Claims (19)

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Ed Skoudis MEMBER_OF SANS Institute

Ed Skoudis says he is an instructor with the SANS Institute.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Ed Skoudis EP 121 Details

“I am an instructor with the SANS Institute.”

Ed Skoudis · offsets 1945–1988

Counter Hack DEVELOPED_BY Ed Skoudis

Ed Skoudis identifies himself as the founder of Counter Hack.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Ed Skoudis EP 121 Details

“founder of Counter Hack”

Ed Skoudis · offsets 2020–2043

Ed Skoudis MEMBER_OF Bell Labs

Jack says Ed went to work at Bell Labs; this indicates an employment relationship.

Explicit Confidence 97% · Jack Rhysider EP 121 Details

“he went to work at Bell Labs”

Jack Rhysider · offsets 3027–3055

Ed Skoudis USES penetration testing

Ed identifies himself as a penetration tester and describes performing penetration tests.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Ed Skoudis EP 121 Details

“I am a penetration tester”

Ed Skoudis · offsets 1990–2015

Ed Skoudis USES Nmap

Ed says his team uses NMAP to discover available systems and open ports during attack-surface mapping.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Ed Skoudis EP 121 Details

“you’re using various tools, NMAP is a very popular one”

Ed Skoudis · offsets 8801–8855

Ed Skoudis USES Vulnerability scanning

Ed describes scanning systems to identify potential vulnerabilities during a penetration test.

Explicit Confidence 95% · Ed Skoudis EP 121 Details

“moving on to finding a list of potential vulnerabilities with them”

Ed Skoudis · offsets 8964–9030

Ed Skoudis USES cross-site scripting

Jack says Ed's team tested websites for cross-site scripting vulnerabilities.

Derived Confidence 94% · Jack Rhysider EP 121 Details

“see if those websites were vulnerable to cross-site scripting attacks”

Jack Rhysider · offsets 10282–10351

Ed Skoudis USES SQL injection

Jack says Ed's team tested websites for SQL injection vulnerabilities.

Derived Confidence 94% · Jack Rhysider EP 121 Details

“or SQL injection attacks”

Jack Rhysider · offsets 10352–10376

Ed Skoudis USES Virtual private network

Ed describes conducting internal testing while connected through a VPN as a low-privilege employee.

Explicit Confidence 98% · Ed Skoudis EP 121 Details

“We just want to be on the internal network, VPN’d in.”

Ed Skoudis · offsets 12673–12726

Ed Skoudis EXPLOITS Replay vulnerability

Ed's team found and demonstrated exploitation of a replay vulnerability in the toy's wireless messaging.

Explicit Confidence 98% · Ed Skoudis EP 121 Details

“we found a replay vulnerability”

Ed Skoudis · offsets 33418–33449

Ed Skoudis USES Replay attack

Ed explains that his team captured wireless packets and replayed them to make the toy speak.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Ed Skoudis EP 121 Details

“we could sniff that packet and capture it”

Ed Skoudis · offsets 33665–33706

“In a replay attack, you simply replay the packet that you capture.”

Ed Skoudis · offsets 33709–33775

Beau Woods MEMBER_OF I Am The Cavalry

Beau Woods says he is a volunteer with I Am The Cavalry.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Beau Woods EP 121 Details

“I’m a volunteer with a grassroots initiative called I Am The Cavalry”

Beau Woods · offsets 23962–24030

Biohacking Village Device Lab PART_OF Defcon

Jack describes the Biohacking Village Device Lab as an activity at Defcon.

Explicit Confidence 98% · Jack Rhysider EP 121 Details

“What Beau helps organize is the Biohacking Village Device Lab”

Jack Rhysider · offsets 24530–24591

“This year at Defcon at the Biohacking Village, we have a Device Lab.”

Beau Woods · offsets 24920–24988

Biohacking Village Device Lab ASSOCIATED_WITH Food and Drug Administration

Beau says the FDA participates in the Device Lab through Suzanne Schwartz and Seth Carmody.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Beau Woods EP 121 Details

“We’ve got – the FDA is participating.”

Beau Woods · offsets 26013–26050

Biohacking Village Device Lab ASSOCIATED_WITH Mayo Clinic

Beau says the Mayo Clinic built a Capture the Flag exercise for the Device Lab.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Beau Woods EP 121 Details

“We’ve also got a Capture the Flag that the Mayo Clinic built”

Beau Woods · offsets 25936–25996

Capture the Flag DEVELOPED_BY Mayo Clinic

Beau attributes construction of a Capture the Flag exercise to the Mayo Clinic.

Explicit Confidence 98% · Beau Woods EP 121 Details

“a Capture the Flag that the Mayo Clinic built”

Beau Woods · offsets 25951–25996

Windows 7 ASSOCIATED_WITH Surgical laser

Ed says a surgical laser he encountered was controlled by a Windows 7 machine.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Ed Skoudis EP 121 Details

“the laser was controlled by a Windows 7 machine”

Ed Skoudis · offsets 22614–22661

Mark Rasch MEMBER_OF Department of Justice

Ed describes Mark Rasch as one of the chief prosecutors of Kevin Mitnick from the Department of Justice.

Explicit Confidence 96% · Ed Skoudis EP 121 Details

“one of the chief prosecutors of Kevin Mitnick back in the day from the Department of Justice”

Ed Skoudis · offsets 21192–21284

Ed Skoudis ASSOCIATED_WITH Defcon

Ed says he spoke at Defcon as part of his cybersecurity-industry work.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Ed Skoudis EP 121 Details

“I spoke at Defcon”

Ed Skoudis · offsets 3860–3877

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