Episode
07 January 2020 Official episode · Official transcript
social engineering
Jordan Harbinger describes his teenage involvement with bulletin board systems, phreaking, cell-phone cloning, online fraud, and assisting the FBI by identifying suspected child predators on AOL. The episode also discusses his later work in social engineering, networking, and training law-enforcement and security personnel.
Topics: Bulletin board systems and dial-up online communities, Telephone phreaking, Analog cellular-channel scanning and interception, Cell-phone cloning using stolen ESNs, Dumpster-diving for electronic identifiers, Credit-card fraud and generated card numbers, AOL chat rooms and instant messaging, Online undercover identity and baiting, Cross-jurisdiction cybercrime investigations, Social engineering, persuasion, and influence
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Jordan Harbinger USES bulletin board systems
As a teenager, Jordan used bulletin board systems to meet people, exchange information, and upload text files.
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“what I ended up doing was going on a lot of bulletin board systems”
Jordan Harbinger USES phreaking
Jordan learned and practiced telephone-system hacking, which he called phreaking.
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“We called it phreaking back then.”
Jordan Harbinger USES dumpster-diving
Jordan participated in dumpster-diving with others to find electronic serial numbers.
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“we’re dumpster-diving for these electronic serial numbers”
dumpster-diving USES electronic serial number
The dumpster-diving described in the episode was conducted to obtain electronic serial numbers.
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“we’re dumpster-diving for these electronic serial numbers”
Jordan Harbinger USES cell phone cloning
Jordan learned how to program and clone cell phones and later said he was cloning phones.
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“I started learning how to program cell phones”
“cloning cell phones was really fun”
cell phone cloning USES electronic serial number
The phone-cloning operation described by Jordan involved reprogramming phones with stolen electronic serial numbers.
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“reprogram them with stolen ESNs”
Jordan Harbinger USES NEC P301
Jordan says he may have used an NEC P301 to scan analog cellular channels and listen to conversations, though he is not certain which handset he had.
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“I think I had an NEC P301 or an NEC P300 or both.”
Jordan Harbinger USES NEC P300
Jordan says he may have used an NEC P300 to scan analog cellular channels and listen to conversations, though he is not certain which handset he had.
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“I think I had an NEC P301 or an NEC P300 or both.”
Jordan Harbinger USES analog cellular channels
Jordan scanned analog cellular channels and listened to one side of phone conversations; he presents some details of the equipment and reception uncertainly.
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“you could get that to scan cell phone channels and you could listen to one side of the conversation”
Jordan Harbinger USES Ameritech handset
Jordan stole and used an Ameritech lineman's handset, attaching its alligator clips to telephone line pairs to listen to conversations.
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“I saw an Ameritech handset”
“I can listen to conversations all day in my neighborhood”
Jordan Harbinger USES social engineering
Jordan identified social engineering as the next step after learning from intercepted conversations and later used it to create a deceptive AOL identity.
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“the next logical step is social engineering”
“Social engineering for the win”
Jordan Harbinger USES credit card fraud
Jordan used a fabricated or stolen credit-card number to order goods and later ordered pizza for his school using a credit card that was not his.
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“I tried to order something small over the phone paying with a credit card and it worked”
“I ordered pizza for the next day for my entire middle school”
Jordan Harbinger USES AOL
Jordan used AOL to look for girls and participate in online chat rooms.
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“he popped on AOL to try his luck anyway.”
Jordan Harbinger USES AOL Instant Messenger
Jordan used AOL Instant Messenger while posing online as a girl and interacting with men who contacted the account.
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“I was meeting girls on AOL instant messenger”
“I made a screenname on AOL that sounded really girly”
online predator investigation INVOLVES Federal Bureau of Investigation
The online-predator investigation involved Jordan working with FBI agents, including Agent Forester, to develop leads and make arrests.
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“I started working at that time via Agent Forester and some of the other agents with people in DC”
“They started organizing with local PD and they started making arrests.”
online predator investigation INVOLVES Jordan Harbinger
The investigation involved Jordan supplying chat transcripts, baiting suspected predators into conversations, and handing chats off to investigators.
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“I had their screennames so I could easily go and get them and bait them into a chat.”
online predator investigation INVOLVES AOL Instant Messenger
The investigation involved suspected predators contacting Jordan through AOL chat and instant messaging.
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“since it was computer crime”
“AOL’s servers are in Virginia or whatever”
online predator investigation INVOLVES social engineering
Jordan used a deceptive, girl-like screen name and conversational baiting as part of the investigation.
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“I could easily go and get them and bait them into a chat”
The Jordan Harbinger Show DEVELOPED_BY Jordan Harbinger
Jordan says the idea for The Jordan Harbinger Show grew out of his work on networking, sales, and relationship development.
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“That was the genesis of me starting The Jordan Harbinger Show”
Jack Rhysider AUTHORED Darknet Diaries
Jack identifies himself as the person who made Darknet Diaries and presents himself as its host.
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“This is Darknet Diaries. I’m Jack Rhysider.”
“This show is made by me”
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