Episode

EP 74 — Mikko

15 September 2020 Official episode · Official transcript

botnet research cybercrime incident response

The episode covers attacks against high-stakes online poker players, Mikko Hyppönen’s malware research career, historical PC viruses, email worms, botnets, and the Hyppönen Law.

Topics: Hotel-room compromise of a poker player’s laptop, Remote-access malware and screenshot capture, Trojanized poker utility software, Evil maid attacks, Targeted attacks against high-stakes online poker players, WHOIS and historical WHOIS investigation, Magnetic-stripe hotel key security, Polymorphic and metamorphic malware, Virtual-machine malware analysis, Early PC-virus history, Email worms and self-propagation, Botnets and command-and-control servers, Encrypted malware payloads, Hyppönen Law and IoT security

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Entities (45)

Claims (12)

Qualified statements from this episode, not graph facts.

Mikko Hyppönen MEMBER_OF F-Secure

Mikko states that he is the chief research officer of F-Secure.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Mikko Hyppönen EP 74 Details

“I am the chief research officer for F-Secure Corporation”

Mikko Hyppönen · offsets 19801–19857

Mikko Hyppönen MEMBER_OF Data Fellows

Mikko says he joined Data Fellows in 1991 as employee number six.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Mikko Hyppönen EP 74 Details

“I joined a company called Data Fellows in 1991 as employee number six.”

Mikko Hyppönen · offsets 38814–38884

Data Fellows SAME_AS F-Secure

Mikko says Data Fellows was renamed F-Secure in 1999 and that it is the same company.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Mikko Hyppönen EP 74 Details

“The company isn’t called Data Fellows anymore because we renamed the company to F-Secure in 1999”

Mikko Hyppönen · offsets 38950–39046

“But yeah, it is the same company.”

Mikko Hyppönen · offsets 39078–39111

Pot odds calculator CONTAINS Remote access Trojan

F-Secure found that a pot-odds calculator installed by a poker player contained a remote access Trojan.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Mikko Hyppönen EP 74 Details

“there was this tool for calculating pot odds which contained, again, a remote access Trojan.”

Mikko Hyppönen · offsets 22299–22391

F-Secure USES WHOIS records

F-Secure researchers use WHOIS records, including historical WHOIS records, to help identify people involved with malware.

Explicit Confidence 96% · Mikko Hyppönen EP 74 Details

“one of the most typical ways we have been able to figure out who’s involved with a piece of malware is WHOIS records.”

Mikko Hyppönen · offsets 24598–24715

F-Secure USES Virtual machine malware analysis

Mikko describes F-Secure's malware-analysis approach of executing malware in a virtual machine so it can decrypt and reveal its payload.

Explicit Confidence 96% · Mikko Hyppönen EP 74 Details

“we would simply execute the malware in a virtual machine”

Mikko Hyppönen · offsets 48470–48526

Whale USES Polymorphic malware

Mikko says Whale used metamorphic or polymorphic algorithms and rewrote itself when replicating.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Mikko Hyppönen EP 74 Details

“These are viruses which would use metamorphic or polymorphic algorithms, including Whale.”

Mikko Hyppönen · offsets 50800–50894

“Every time the Whale malware would replicate to a new file, it would rewrite itself.”

Mikko Hyppönen · offsets 47198–47282

Sobig USES Command and control

Sobig.F infected computers contacted command-and-control servers controlled by the malware author for instructions.

Explicit Confidence 99% · Mikko Hyppönen EP 74 Details

“every single infected computer would contact ten different servers. These would be command and control servers controlled by the malware author.”

Mikko Hyppönen · offsets 58008–58153

Winvir DISCOVERED_BY Mikko Hyppönen

Mikko says he and a coder named Ismo found what they determined was the first Windows virus and named it Winvir.

Explicit Confidence 96% · Mikko Hyppönen EP 74 Details

“me and Ismo, one of our coders at the time, spent a couple of days trying to figure out this sample.”

Mikko Hyppönen · offsets 50292–50392

“It turned out to be the very first Windows virus in history. Well, we named it.”

Mikko Hyppönen · offsets 50394–50474

Malware Museum PART_OF Internet Archive

Jack directs listeners to the Malware Museum at the Internet Archive.

Explicit Direction flagged Confidence 91% · Mikko Hyppönen EP 74 Details

“visiting the Malware Museum at the internet archive”

Mikko Hyppönen · offsets 45411–45462

Mikko Hyppönen ASSOCIATED_WITH Hyppönen Law

The Hyppönen Law is explicitly associated with Mikko and named after him, although Mikko says he did not originally coin it as a law.

Explicit Confidence 98% · Jack Rhysider EP 74 Details

“There’s a law named after you”

Jack Rhysider · offsets 62443–62472

“there’s a Wikipedia page for the Hyppönen Law”

Mikko Hyppönen · offsets 62599–62644

Mikko Hyppönen MENTIONS Brain

Mikko discusses Brain and says he analyzed Brain.A when he began professionally analyzing malware.

Explicit Confidence 98% · Mikko Hyppönen EP 74 Details

“I did go through the Brain.A code as well when I started professionally doing malware analyzes.”

Mikko Hyppönen · offsets 40332–40427

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